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Responses To: "All is lost"


Subject: "All is lost" created on 08/03/09 by guest
I've read through your mission statement and I understand your goals. The problem is I'm not terribly interested in contibuting to a website that will accurately record the causes and events of the total destruction of the United States.

I've been trying to figure out what the final trigger will be plunges the United States into unrecoverable chaos. A mojor disruption to the shipping supply lines would be interesting as the shelves at every store become empty of everything. That would start mass rioting and possible Civil War.

Another possibility would be for Red China to call in its' debts and seize all federal property as colataral. The World Trade Organizations would back China up. Imagine all the Federal Land in the United States becoming a Chineese state. The Chineese could instantly get a major return on their investment by selling off the Grand Canyon to developers who could get huge bucks for canyon view condos. Privatizing the statue of Liberty would allow reserved slots to visit the statue that would be sold to the highest bidder closing it to all but the wealthiest of travelers.

I will live to see the Unites States collapse into a world as depicted in the movies showing life after the atomic war. The damage however will not be caused by bombs but roving groups of thousands of starving people putting torch to any thing that will burn while the congress and Corporate executives flea to foriegn countries where they have been promised a safe haven for services rendered. I am powerless to prevent this and don't even have a clue how I myself will survive this when it happens.


The problem is that I don't see a lot of value in running around the chicken yard and yelling that the sky is falling. Unlike the fable we all know that the ski really is falling but those who have the power to prevent it have a vested interest in letting the sky fall. The CEO's of our "American" Companies mega million dollar bonuses are based on creating record profits this quarter. If in order to do this the company must move employees, service, and production to countries that don't protect workers or the environment so be it.

The US Government is supposed to look at what is happening and pass legislation to discourage the loss of jobs and industry in the United States. It is also supposed to be protecting National Security in making sure that all goods needed for our survival can be produced here in event of a worldwide disruption in world trade. It has not even taken teh smallest step to do any of this.

Unfortunately the president after a recent visit with the WTO pledged that he would insure that the United States passes no protectionist legislation. Both the republican and democratic party are both owned by the lobbyistes and have been paid well to do their bidding. Except for Joe Liberman (I may have that name wrong) all Republicans and Democrats must slavishly vote the party line. Democracy is a joke.

There is no political force in the United States that has any interest in the future of the United States. If one started to rise it would be immediately snuffed out by the huge forces that face short term gain in the destruction of the country. These forces own the congress, the president, and the media. All is lost,

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guest says "Some solace" on 08/03/09
Others have said it much better than I:

You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing; after they've tried everything else. Winston Churchill

And from Robert F. Kennedy:

"Too much and too long, we seem to have surrendered community excellence and community values in the mere accumulation of material things. Our gross national product ... if we should judge America by that - counts air pollution and cigarette advertising, and ambulances to clear our highways of carnage. It counts special locks for our doors and the jails for those who break them. It counts the destruction of our redwoods and the loss of our natural wonder in chaotic sprawl. It counts napalm and the cost of a nuclear warhead, and armored cars for police who fight riots in our streets. It counts Whitman's rifle and Speck's knife, and the television programs which glorify violence in order to sell toys to our children. "Yet the gross national product does not allow for the health of our children, the quality of their education, or the joy of their play. It does not include the beauty of our poetry or the strength of our marriages; the intelligence of our public debate or the integrity of our public officials. It measures neither our wit nor our courage; neither our wisdom nor our learning; neither our compassion nor our devotion to our country; it measures everything, in short, except that which makes life worthwhile. And it tells us everything about America except why we are proud that we are Americans."

If indeed all is lost, it is far more than the USA that will descend into barbarism and anarchy.

We have seen three central banks come and go during our history. Our Treasury has always stood. It will now. Though we may lose this Federal Reserve Bank to insolvency, the loss is far form losing our country. We have nearly completed the greatest peaceable transfer of wealth in the history of mankind; the inheritance from so-called "Greatest Generation" to the Boomers.

Is it any wonder the paper money boys look to rob the new rich? No my friend. All is not lost. Heed your Churchill and get on with the business of seeing your world as RFK wisely advised.

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